Dino
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Post by Dino on Feb 19, 2009 6:20:36 GMT -5
Any chance you guys might to an episode on the Alien films? I only really care about the first three, so you can even exclude Resurrection and the two Alien Vs Predator ones if you like.
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Post by james on Feb 19, 2009 11:09:24 GMT -5
I'd love to hear this. If Derrick and Tom do this, I hope they discuss the bizarre stories behind the making of the third film.
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Post by Derrick on Feb 19, 2009 15:59:30 GMT -5
I think ALIEN and ALIENS should be required movie watching for everybody and anybody. I'm not all that crazy about ALIEN3 and recommend it to folks only because its David Fincher's directorial debut.
There was a screenplay for ALIEN3 that had Ripley crashlanding on a planet sized monastery made out of wood. I'd've killed to have seen that screenplay filmed.
ALIEN RESURRECTION is interesting only in that you can see prototypes of the crew of "Firefly' in the space mercenaries. No surprise since Joss Whedon wrote the screenplay.
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Post by james on Feb 19, 2009 17:45:24 GMT -5
There was a screenplay for ALIEN3 that had Ripley crashlanding on a planet sized monastery made out of wood. I'd've killed to have seen that screenplay filmed. That was the script for the propsed version Vincent Ward was to direct. Apparently the germ of the idea of Ripley among a planet of men who consider her a temptation/outsider/etc. came from this version. William Gibson wrote a different screenplay with the aliens being genetically modified as weapons in a Cold War style scenario. A few years ago, Cahiers du Cinemart fanzine published a smart review of several of the proposed scripts for the third film as well as the script actually used. There were at least five, I think. (Recently, the magazine did the same for the scripts for the fifth Superman film, including Kevin Smith's). |
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Post by james on Feb 19, 2009 17:47:57 GMT -5
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Post by tombitd on Feb 19, 2009 21:14:01 GMT -5
[quote author=james board=futureideas thread=93 post=351 time=1235083524(Recently, the magazine did the same for the scripts for the fifth Superman film, including Kevin Smith's). [/quote]
I've read the script for Superman written by Kevin Smith, and it is a honey--especially the cameo by a certain cape crusader that Michael Keaton had said he'd do as a favor to Tim Burton.
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Post by Dino on Feb 20, 2009 3:06:07 GMT -5
I believe you and I had plenty of discussions about this. I personally feel that Alien3 is better than Aliens. Don't get me wrong, I love Aliens, but I felt Alien3 was closer in tone to the first one (and since Alien is my favorite, I'm a bit biased) and I also feel the third was a perfect cap-off for Ripley's journey (I wrote a paper on the trilogy in college).
I'm not sure if you have it, but the collector's edition of Alien3 features an assembly cut version that was closer to Fincher's vision than the theatrical version. Not a director's cut, because Fincher walked off the project during editing because Fox executives finally pissed him off too much and because of so many bad memories, he wanted nothing more to do with the franchise. You should check it out if you haven't, it's a far superior film.
That and the born-again fundamentalists. This version actually came very close to being made, there are storyboards for it on the DVD.
David Twohy (I think that's his name) also wrote a script that was rejected. Instead, he made it as Pitch Black (a pretty underrated movie, IMO and the only time I didn't hate Vin Diesel).
Yeah, the original plan for Fox was to have Ripley, Newt and Hicks return to Earth, but this idea was abandoned pretty early after that teaser was made.
Several years back, Smith wrote an edition of Wizard Magazine's Casting Call feature where he picked who he envisioned for his script. Some of the cast members were great. Others were...not so much. Like Affleck as Superman.
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