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Post by alaskanmike on Mar 3, 2010 17:02:51 GMT -5
Tom your reaction to Absolute Justice was about the same reaction I had to the final two part David Tennant Doctor Who story (The End of Time)...WTF!!! Smallville is a show I want to like, but god damn it seems like everybody on that show is just going through the motions. Doctor Who has had its share of bad episodes and low periods. But when, Tennant was the Doctor (though Troughton, and Sylvester McCoy had this too), their was always gleeful enthusiasm in the performance. Tennant is somebody you can tell loved playing the Doctor. Tom Welling as Clark Kent on the other hand, uhhh. somebody please plug this guy in. How is the mopey, passive-aggressive Clark Kent from Smallville ever going to become Superman? Never mind the fact that pretty much every villain he has fought on Smallville knows who Clark is, and what he can do, thus giving Clark no reason to even have a secret identity. Never mind that. Superman is suppose to be the guy leading the charge. He suppose to be the guy that inspires other to do what's right. Superman is guy who stands on the front line of the battle just so he can draw the enemy fire, and protect everyone else behind him. Where is that guy? Not on Smallville. I'll buy that Clark was mopey and passive-aggressive in high school. But where is the character arch that shows me how he becomes the strong and confidant leader of heroes. Smallville keeps dragging there feet. Smallville feels like a show where everyone involved would be a lot happier if nobody on the show had super powers. And it was just pure angst, and drama. Fine go make that show. I think it's called Dawson's Creek, or Gossip Girl, or Beverly Hills 90210. I want and have always wanted a show about Superman. Absolute Justice was okay, but again Smallville you're just going through the motions. Take a lesson from Doctor Who, maybe it's bad but at least have fun with it.
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Post by Dino on Mar 18, 2010 3:59:25 GMT -5
When Smallville first came out, it was one of my favorite shows. But after the third season, there was a massive plummet in quality and it just kept getting worse and worse and worse.
This season is an improvement over the previous one (which shows you how bad that season was) but it's still crap. Even the show's creators said "enough is enough" and left after the seventh season.
If they want to continue doing a show about the Superman mythos with Welling, then great -- but have him become Superman already! At the rate we're going, Clark's transformation into Superman will be a mid-life crisis.
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Post by stacyd on Apr 13, 2010 0:31:59 GMT -5
Smallville.
This should be the easiest sell in the world for me; a series chronicling the period of Clark Kent's life from the discovery of his alien heritage to his donning the cape and tights for the first time as Superman? With little easter-egg hints as to the greater DC Universe as a whole? For God's sake, where do I sign up for something that cool? I remember being very, very intrigued with the series' concept waaaay back in the day when it was announced in 2001. But then I sat down and watched the pilot, and determined that while I do love the exploration of the Superman concept and archetype in many, many incarnations (from the big blue boy scout himself to Supreme to Tom Strong to even the Plutonian), this watered-down retread of Buffy The Vampire Slayer was not going to cut it. So, knowing I would not like it and most likely it would drive me nuts, I simply dusted my hands of it and walked away.
Years have passed and I've never come to regret that decision. Of late, a friend of mine who's not all that into comics has made some steps toward reading Superman titles because he follows Smallville, and my brother is a pretty big fan. When Green Arrow, the Legion, Martian Manhunter and then the Justice Society began to bleed into the picture, I sat down and watched an episode with them, the one that introduced the Black Canary to the Smallville Mythos. Perhaps it was a good episode, perhaps it was a bad one, I can't really recall much of the plot. Most of the time my inner Comics Fanboy was too busy screaming 'WRONG' at me to allow me to appreciate the episode and give it a fair shake. Black Canary is a blond wig, a tight little leather outfit with or without fishnets. How is that hard to mess up? Evidently not very, as they had this poor woman looking like Daryl Hannah's character from Blade Runner. The hell? And--I'm sorry--but sunglasses are not a domino mask. A domino mask is a domino mask. And yes, I am more than aware that a domino mask does jack-all for concealing a person's identity. But if we can accept the conceit of a man who is bulletproof and flies, a shapeshifting alien with a weakness for cookies, and a woman who can scream in the hypersonic range? Give me superheroes in damned costumes. Good costumes, he said eyeing the Justice Society's episode warily, and ones tailored to the actor's body type. Yes, reality can't always live up to fantasy, but find a frickin' happier medium than this.
I just wish they'd close down the Superman aspects of the series and just do a Green Arrow show. That's a series I could see actually working, set in Star City and based around Oliver Queen's adventures. It's a good fit for a prime time television series, and definitely plays to the current Smallville production team's strengths. The problem with Smallville is that it tries to be all things to all people and fails; it tries to be just soap opera enough for the mundanes while having geekery aplenty for the hardcore comics fans, and it can't work out the balance. That, or it errs on the side of conservative and completely screws the pooch.
And yes, Welling is horrible. With the departure of Michael Rosenbaum and Annette O'Toole (mrrrrrowr) any interest I had in watching the show tapered off to nil. Cancel this thing and get back to me when they release either a Green Arrow series or an adaptation of Stephen T. Seagle, Matt Wagner, and Guy Davis's amazing Sandman Mystery Theatre. THAT I'd watch religiously.
Stac
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Post by tombitd on Apr 13, 2010 5:58:13 GMT -5
As I think we've eluded to in That Episode and elsewhere, the Caucasin Wankery Network has been on life support almost from the inception of the merger, and they're desperate to keep the few series that actually generate income alive. It's one of the reasons the creators of Supernatural are now mumbling about a sixth season once their over-arching five year storyline is done.
I also don't think there isn't a single viewer who doesn't want a Green Arrow series...but to remove GA would be to remove one of the elements that keep a large portion of the fanbase hanging on (notice how GA was written out halfway through season six only to be hurriedly written into a position as a regular character the season after). And the CW needs Smallville to continue to survive...
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Post by stacyd on Apr 13, 2010 6:50:57 GMT -5
Yeesh, a sixth season of Supernatural? What'd be left to tell after the frickin' apocalypse? This outright need by the higher-ups from the CW/ex-WB/Whatever network is just going to lead to a diminishing returns issue when the comics fans realize what the writers are doing is little more than baiting a hungry dog in a cage with a raw steak. "You want it boy? You want it? Huh? Huh? Sucks to be you, ya can't have it!' To say nothing of the people who tune in for the drama of Will Lois/Clark, Won't Clark/Lois, or What About Chloe/Clark find themselves getting characters and concepts they could give less than a damn about suddenly shoehorned into their stories. It satisfies no one while trying to satisfy everyone. Oy. . .  Stac |
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