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Post by Derrick on Sept 29, 2008 8:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by Erik on Sept 29, 2008 9:55:36 GMT -5
Finally, a movie that's NOT Batman or Superman. It's funny to me how Marvel really launched their current string of movies with a character few even knew was Marvel with BLADE yet WB hinges the success of their movies with the two largest names there is in comics and just repeatedly cash in on the same cow time after time. Fortunately, they've found the right formula with their current BATMAN. WB was due to diversify their movie stable and expand their universe.
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Post by Derrick on Sept 29, 2008 12:28:32 GMT -5
Finally, a movie that's NOT Batman or Superman. It's funny to me how Marvel really launched their current string of movies with a character few even knew was Marvel with BLADE yet WB hinges the success of their movies with the two largest names there is in comics and just repeatedly cash in on the same cow time after time. Fortunately, they've found the right formula with their current BATMAN. WB was due to diversify their movie stable and expand their universe. Isn't that something? Many people forget or ignore that the wave of Marvel movies began with BLADE. I remember when that movie first came out and friends and family of mine were amazed when I told them that the character had been around in comic books since the 70's. I had to crack out the box I have my complete run of TOMB OF DRACULA in and show it to them. Even got my wife to sit down and read some of them which almost made me faint. And there was a story I read online a few weeks back where the WB Suits sat down with the DC staff and mandated that they want to see more superhero movies and see 'em right now. So hopefully some of these stalled DC projects we've been hearing about for years will get off the ground. Me, I'd love to see a film adaptation of the Goodwin/Simonsen MANHUNTER and DOOM PATROL set in period (the 1960's) and isn't it high time we saw a CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN movie? Even though my dream cast for the team are all too old now to play the parts. |
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Post by Erik on Sept 29, 2008 14:23:49 GMT -5
I think it's funny that even though the moden era of DC movies will have started with BATMAN BEGINS the whole movie thing for DC really wasn't given any credance until THE DARK KNIGHT! So much so that they had to reboot SUPERMAN and take their other projects (JL and GL with Common) and dump them to retool them until we got this GREEN LANTERN script to do what Marvel had started in the late '90s with BLADE! DC could've really had a stranglehold on this market because their movies are already all in house through WB so they've really could've capitalized on the 'shared' universe aspect that Marvel only JUST did with IRON MAN and then INCREDIBLE HULK!
Sure, Marvel had some stinkers (Ghost Rider, DD, Spider-Man 3 and Elektra) but on the whole the quality has been good and promises to be better now that everything's in house. This is ALL DC could've been waist deep in already.
...on a side, yet related note, After 'Iron Man' my friends and I were talking about the Marvel flicks and the three of us agreed that a 'Moon Knight' movie would kick all kinds of ass. I'd also like to see the reboot treatment given to 'Daredevil' and if MSJ has ANYTHING to do with this movie then I will burn Marvel NYC to the ground. 'Cause if they can give the reboot treatment to BOTH 'Punisher' and 'Hulk' within like 5 years of their releases then DD should be a given, especially since it WAS a box office success.
If Marvel Studios is doing all the movies now then they could even hint to him existing in the same universe as Spider-Man. But, I don't think I'd like it if ALL the movies existed in the same universe as I don't even think all the COMICS should exist in the same universe.
Spider-Man, Daredevil, Moon Knight, Punisher should exist in their own - along with their respective characters and villains. These are gritty, down to Earth characters that deal with more grounded stories.
The Avengers, Hulk, Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer (and their cast) should exist in their own. I think the type of stories the Avengers and the F4 tell would just feel better confined to their own world. They go into the fantastic and above reality on such a scale that I think would undercut the more down to Earth stories you'd get out of the Spider-Man/DD/Moon Knight stories. That and I'd like to see a type of F4/Avengers crossover even if it's just a hint to the Silver Surfer.
The X-Men should ABSOLUTELY exist in their own universe. The persecution mutants face doesn't mesh well with the general acceptance of other super-heroes. Nobody is going to make a general distinction between why they should hate Cyclops and NOT Spider-Man. Or realize that Storm is different than Thor. They either hate ALL people with powers, or none and especially not for different reasons to hate some people with powers and not others. The X-Men and their type should 100% be in their seperate universe in the movies. Leave the social commentary and their struggle to themselves.
Blade is also fine on his own to deal with Vampires in a universe seperate from the others. ALL Marvel horror characters should exist together in this universe. Morbius, Werewolf by Night, Dr. Strange, Man-Thing and whatever.
Not only would the general setting of each movie be less convoluted but there's less of a need to try and shoehorn in references that don't need to be mentioned. Like the Dr. Strange comment in Spider-Man 2 was cool, but totally unnecessary.
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Post by Derrick on Sept 29, 2008 15:21:19 GMT -5
I've long gone on record as saying that I prefer The X-Men in the movie incarnation much more than the Marvel Comics version. The entire mutant/human conflict makes way much more sense when you don't have any other superheroes in the same universe. I mean really...I should mind that my daughter is a mutant like say, Jean Grey? She's not only beautiful and smart but she can read the minds of her boyfriends and weed out the creeps better than I can. Who wouldn't want a daughter like that?
Y'know, I get emails and phone calls from friends of mine all the time asking me don't I think a MOON KNIGHT movie would be cool. Now, don't get me wrong...I'm a Moon Knight fan from way back when he was the backup strip in the HULK magazine but I think that if a MOON KNIGHT movie came out now the general public would see it as a Batman ripoff and it wouldn't do well at all.
Funny you mention a DAREDEVIL reboot...Tom Deja and I were talking last night and he said that he has heard it confirmed that there will be a DAREDEVIL 'requel'
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Post by james on Sept 29, 2008 16:20:07 GMT -5
Me, I'd love to see a film adaptation of the Goodwin/Simonsen MANHUNTER and DOOM PATROL set in period (the 1960's) and isn't it high time we saw a CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN movie? Even though my dream cast for the team are all too old now to play the parts. I'd be interested in a Swamp Thing movie, modeled after the Alan Moore/ Stephen Bissette comics (and not, you know, the two previous movies, though I liked the first one). But it would be a comic book movie that isn't a super hero movie. On the topic of Walt Simonson, there's been news lately about a proposed Thor movie. If this gets made, I hope it's modeled after Simonson's work, which defined Thor for me. (Yes, even the Thunder Frog story was terrific). |
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Post by tombitd on Sept 29, 2008 20:36:14 GMT -5
As a long time fan of GL (as we'll see soon enough, he says enigmatically), I am guardedly pleased with this news. After all, I still have memories of the announcement of a GL movie starring Jack Black as Hal Jordan.... |
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Post by tombitd on Sept 29, 2008 20:39:07 GMT -5
Funny you mention a DAREDEVIL reboot...Tom Deja and I were talking last night and he said that he has heard it confirmed that there will be a DAREDEVIL 'requel' I have heard from Cool Shite on The Tube that 20th Century is intending on doing this after seeing Warner Brothers and Paramount carrying home bushels of money from their super-hero stuffage.... And James...there has been talk of a new version of Swamp Thing as well. Of course, I'm an oddball who likes both film versions of this story to date. |
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Post by Kelen on Sept 30, 2008 0:06:44 GMT -5
Funny you mention a DAREDEVIL reboot...Tom Deja and I were talking last night and he said that he has heard it confirmed that there will be a DAREDEVIL 'requel' I'm probably one of the original's few fans but I'm ready for a reboot so DD can see some sequels dammit. |
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