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Post by Dino on Jan 30, 2011 17:53:17 GMT -5
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Post by Eddie Love on Jan 30, 2011 18:15:06 GMT -5
WTF, Nolan? I love you, but -- first Batman and now Superman -- not played by an American? His accent better be as good as Bale's -- I'm a big stickler on this point. (He is really good on THE TUDORS, though.)
This is also reeaallly interesting from a Bond perspective as he was the only other name in the final running for CASINO ROYALE before they went with Craig, in the event they were gonna skew that re-boot younger. That means he's now likely off that back-up list which they like to keep pretty short.
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Post by tombitd on Jan 30, 2011 19:36:42 GMT -5
WTF, Nolan? I love you, but -- first Batman and now Superman -- not played by an American? His accent better be as good as Bale's -- I'm a big stickler on this point. (He is really good on THE TUDORS, though.) I dunno...he's the right age for the role, he looks like he's in the realm of the character's visual...and I trust Snyder (not Nolan; his Batman movies are the only films of Nolan's I have ambivilent feelings toward, but I figure it couldn't have gone through without Snyder--who's not made a misstep in my eyes--signing off on it) enough to think he's got the chops. Now to see if we can influence Snyder to cast Carla Guigino as Lois Lane.... |
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Post by grubl on Jan 30, 2011 20:47:59 GMT -5
I do not trust Snyder.
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Post by Eddie Love on Jan 30, 2011 21:27:41 GMT -5
WTF, Nolan? I love you, but -- first Batman and now Superman -- not played by an American? His accent better be as good as Bale's -- I'm a big stickler on this point. (He is really good on THE TUDORS, though.) I dunno...he's the right age for the role, he looks like he's in the realm of the character's visual...and I trust Snyder (not Nolan; his Batman movies are the only films of Nolan's I have ambivilent feelings toward, but I figure it couldn't have gone through without Snyder--who's not made a misstep in my eyes--signing off on it) enough to think he's got the chops. Now to see if we can influence Snyder to cast Carla Guigino as Lois Lane.... Hmmmmmmm, I have to go back and listen to the BiTD show on the Nolan Batmen, as I don't remember your being this down on them (or conversely, later so high on Snyder's WATCHMEN.) Personally -- and I lack any real comic book bona fides -- I love Nolan's pictures more each time I see them, though I found both a little exhausting when I first saw them on the big screen. Especially DARK KNIGHT which is now, for me, my favorite comic book movie ever because: A) There's almost no external production design, everything you see is entirely contemporary and... B) ...all or most of the gadgets are fairly practical and could really work. In keeping with that, the film goes for a tone and setting that's almost wholly realistic. (Which you could also say about the first IRON MAN, but that also adopts a (wonderful) serio-comic tone.) C) It's the only Batman movie, and one of the only comic book movies in general, to not have all the dramatic oxygen taken up with the origin (or retread thereof) of Batman or the villain. They both simply exist as antagonists until you realize -- surprise! -- the whole film has, in fact, been leading up to the origin story of a third character all along. Kind of brilliant. I'm not saying both are perfect films, but I love the gothic/fairy tale/pulp/comic tone of the first film and the gritty, nasty contemporary crime feel of the second. I'm seriously pumped to see where he takes the third. |
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Post by tombitd on Jan 30, 2011 22:24:17 GMT -5
Since that episode, my view of The Dark Knight has sort of....well, hardened. The film simply makes no sense on a narrative level; it's not so much a single story as a series of set pieces that mimick a story. The Joker really isn't The Joker--the character has an inherent disconnect between his stated philosophy (i.e. the embrace of anarchy and acknowledging the inherently chaotic nature of the universe) and his methods (i.e. planned out to such an extreme degree that a great deal of order is imposed to make it work).
I just look at those two Batman films, and then look at Inception or The Prestige, and I get so much out of the later with each new viewing...and so much less out of the former. I think there is a sense of Nolan going through the motions with them so he can get the funding for what he really wants to do. And I suspect the only lasting effect these films will have is giving more justification to the people who believe there is only One Way To Interpret Batman....
I realize this is a minority opinion. But it has become mine, and I ask that no one starts trying to browbeat me down into 'switching sides.'
And as for Snyder...the man has yet to do a film I've been unhappy with.
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Post by Dino on Jan 31, 2011 7:25:49 GMT -5
Personally, I always took TDK's Joker's in-depth planning contrasted with his anarchist viewpoint as being symbolic of how batshit he really is.
I get where you're coming from about the Batman films compared to Nolan's other work. Maybe your theory that he's just doing the Batman films to get funding for his more personal projects is true, but damned if they're not really good movies either way. So if that's Nolan phoning it in, he does a lot better than other directors on that front, and better than some directors whose comic book films are their dream projects (coughcoughMARKSTEVENJOHNSONcoughhack). Personally, with the exception of Inception (try saying that three times fast), I still prefer his Batman films.
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Post by Erik on Jan 31, 2011 10:12:23 GMT -5
Personally, I always took TDK's Joker's in-depth planning contrasted with his anarchist viewpoint as being symbolic of how batshit he really is. Completely agreed. |
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Post by Eddie Love on Mar 27, 2011 14:49:56 GMT -5
...and just announced, Amy Adams as Lois Lane.
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Post by tombitd on Mar 27, 2011 16:16:10 GMT -5
...and just announced, Amy Adams as Lois Lane. Well there goes my hope for Carla Gugino weilding the reporter's pad... |
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Post by smang12345 on Mar 27, 2011 20:25:11 GMT -5
...and just announced, Amy Adams as Lois Lane. Amy Adams? That ranks right up there with Kate Bosworth as unimpressive Lois Lane casting decisions. So who's the hotter Ma Kent, Diane Lane or Annete O'Toole? |
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Post by tombitd on Mar 27, 2011 21:02:17 GMT -5
I will always, always ply my troth to Annette O'Toole as the hottest Martha Kent ever...
And Amy Adams...as much as I wanted Carla Gugino, Amy Adams definitely has the acting chops and a flair for dialogue and comic timing. She definitely isn't going to be the snotty, oblivious china doll that Bosworth was.
Now granted, if Snyder needed to go younger with his cast...I would definitely have not said no to Abbie Cornish, who showed a lot of the 'tough girl' aesthetic in Sucker Punch...
Or yes, The Beautiful One.
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Post by smang12345 on Mar 28, 2011 11:09:57 GMT -5
I will always, always ply my troth to Annette O'Toole as the hottest Martha Kent ever... And Amy Adams...as much as I wanted Carla Gugino, Amy Adams definitely has the acting chops and a flair for dialogue and comic timing. She definitely isn't going to be the snotty, oblivious china doll that Bosworth was. Now granted, if Snyder needed to go younger with his cast...I would definitely have not said no to Abbie Cornish, who showed a lot of the 'tough girl' aesthetic in Sucker Punch... Or yes, The Beautiful One. My love for Annette O'Toole knows no bounds so I am glad someone else agrees with me on that. I hate it when people rip a casting choice before hand so i'll try not to do that. What I do want to say is that while Amy Adams is a better actress than Kate Bosworth; nothing in any of the movies i've seen her in makes me feel confident she can play a gutsy, ballsy, hard-nosed reporter. If I had been casting it I would have gone with either Carla Gugino or Cobie Smulders from "How I Met Your Mother". |
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Post by Dino on Apr 10, 2011 5:13:26 GMT -5
I first read that as Amy Acker and got really excited, then I reread it. I haven't seen much of Adams' work, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think she'd be bad for Lois. I'm willing to give her a shot.
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